The Empowerment Couple

From Information to Transformation: Why Embodiment Wins

Zuri Star & Mikey Star Season 6 Episode 6

Knowledge without action is just mental clutter. This powerful truth sits at the heart of our exploration into embodiment – the transformative process that bridges the gap between what we know and how we live.

Have you ever bought a gym membership you never used? Saved workout videos you never tried? Or read self-help books that didn't change your behavior? You're not alone. Despite having unprecedented access to information through smartphones, books, podcasts, and social media, many of us struggle to create lasting change. Studies show we consume over 100,000 words of information daily but retain only about 10% without active engagement.

The reason? Embodiment requires vulnerability, discipline, and discomfort – everything our brain is programmed to avoid. We stay in "fact collector" mode because it's safe. A Stanford study revealed people who learn without practice overestimate their ability to change by 40%, setting themselves up for disappointment. As we playfully explore through our "EM Word Nerd Game" with words like empower, embark, and embrace, the message becomes clear: information without implementation creates no transformation.

Moving from knowing to embodying requires several practical approaches: applying information immediately, creating daily micro-practices, developing body awareness through breathwork, establishing accountability, and slowing down information consumption to allow for integration. Most importantly, we discuss the power of coherence – aligning your mind and heart to create unstoppable momentum toward your goals.

• Consuming information without application leads to mental clutter and false confidence
• Most people stay in "fact collector" mode because it's safe and doesn't require vulnerability
• The Dunning-Kruger effect causes people to overestimate their abilities without practice
• Embodiment requires coherence between mind and heart—not just thinking but feeling
• Our bodies serve as instruments that must resonate with what we want to attract
• Moving from knowing to doing requires immediate application, daily micro-practices, and body awareness
• Knowledge is the spark, embodiment is the flame that creates lasting change
• Even small, consistent actions create more transformation than passive consumption

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Speaker 1:

You know what? I'm going to begin this little beautiful podcasting session admiring your getup. You look like a hodgepodge of giddy up and go and sweats. It's cute, big puffy purple jacket.

Speaker 3:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 3:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 3:

Okay, jeans and a t-shirt Boys are so basic.

Speaker 1:

You're a cowgirl calling in all the couch cushions this takes time to come up with this kind of style. I like it though.

Speaker 3:

It takes time okay. And I'm sorry it's called a jacket, a hat, over my PJs. It's thoughtful.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry. I went for the jeans and t-shirt because I thought that's what you wanted.

Speaker 3:

Let's record a podcast. How about this? Welcome to the Empowerment Couple Podcast, where your path to self-mastery expands.

Speaker 1:

My co-host is Empowerment Coach Zuri Starr.

Speaker 3:

And he's Expansion Coach Mikey Starr.

Speaker 1:

Together we are the Empowerment Couple.

Speaker 3:

Our mission is simple to serve you, love, so you can make informed decisions to regain and maintain your personal power.

Speaker 1:

We'll take you on a journey to a life filled with purpose, passion and limitless possibilities, while sharing stories of transformation, wellness hacks and healthy habits backed by science and ancient wisdom.

Speaker 3:

Plus, we'll keep you entertained with engaging games, banter and funny innuendos along the way. Each episode is an exciting blend of education, entertainment and empowerment designed to help you create a mindset to be a magnet for more love, happiness and abundance.

Speaker 1:

Together with our special guests. We are dedicated to sharing information that empowers you to create your most beautiful life. A one-zine, a two-zine, a three-zine your most beautiful life I got nothing, I got nothing, I got nothing you're supposed to say something.

Speaker 3:

I forgot. How about this? Okay, you can't drink literally he's drinking, while he was sitting there swooshing his drink. Like it's been a minute since you recorded a podcast.

Speaker 1:

Not just any drink.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, Not just any drink. Some ashwagandha and some magnesium and some L-theanine. Yes.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's all kinds of stuff that we read in articles and we realized, like man, if we can just incorporate these things into our lives. And that's what we're doing we're embodying our information to become better versions of ourselves.

Speaker 3:

Better versions.

Speaker 1:

Better versions of ourselves. Well, at least I'm trying to.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes. Well, thanks for empowering me.

Speaker 1:

No problem, no problem.

Speaker 3:

How many times have you bought a gym membership and never used it? In my lifetime Mm-hmm At least twice, and they were both 24-hour fitness and they loved to take my business yeah this was a long time ago, but I actually, I think, was on your plan and I used to go more than you did because I would go to the classes.

Speaker 1:

The dance classes yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the Zumbas and the dance classes and the Pilates, and I really like those. And I will even say that we bought into all the benefits of having a gym at our own house, even Correct. And then there were times where both of us did not use it at all, like I'm talking state-of-the-art gym in your house.

Speaker 1:

It was the cleanest room in the house because it got cleaned and never used for like months.

Speaker 3:

It got created and then not used. Correct, yes, and to the point where it was like maybe we should get rid of all this equipment because, by the way, nobody's using it.

Speaker 1:

No, Until my back went out, which reminded me oh yeah, your back went out because you asked to do something that it wasn't. Back went out because you asked to do something that it wasn't prepared to do, because you weren't working out. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So you weren't working out, even though you knew that's good for your body, it's good for your mental health, good for your sleep. You had already bought into the fact. You went all over the place, picked up equipment. You did all of this work, all over the place, picked up like equipment.

Speaker 1:

You did all of this work and that was like to embody a physical fitness. I had the workout plans. I had all the materials.

Speaker 3:

The TV, the sound system. I had everything that I needed to move forward except for the action.

Speaker 3:

Yes, and that is what over and over again, I see in my coaching business. I see what over and over again I see in my coaching business. I see it over and over again in consulting stuff that I do on social media. It's this idea of I want this thing or I know this thing and then not doing the thing or not embodying the thing, correct, yeah. So we're going to talk all about embodiment today. Let's do this it's going to be very exciting. I'm super excited. Are you excited?

Speaker 1:

I'm very excited. I feel like this concept is what literally has brought us to the microphone.

Speaker 3:

Yes, well, tell me something about that.

Speaker 1:

Well, I will tell you that we live in a day and age, really. A day and age, a day and age where we're literally flooded with information we all have smartphones in our pockets we could find the answers to any question that we ever needed.

Speaker 3:

Books, podcasts.

Speaker 1:

Everything, everything and yet Reels Collectively TikToks, we're still not doing all that great. Yeah, experts. And why is that?

Speaker 3:

I mean, that is the question right.

Speaker 1:

That is the question.

Speaker 3:

We have all of this information, but are we doing anything with the information?

Speaker 1:

That is correct. It's the difference between reading a book and then applying the information. Actually, it's the difference between buying a book and actually reading a book.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like knowing something and actually embodying. It is what we're going to be talking about today, because you don't become empowered by what you know. You become empowered by how you live what you know.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, I like that. That's how you live, what you know, that's beautiful, okay, chloe.

Speaker 3:

So let's talk about how knowing is not doing. Yeah, because knowledge is important, but without action it's just mental clutter, Correct? So a factoid for you.

Speaker 1:

I like factoids.

Speaker 3:

The average person consumes over 100,000 words of information per day, according to Forbes.

Speaker 1:

100,000 words of information per day, according to Forbes, but studies show only 10% of that information is retained without action or engagement 10%, and I totally agree with that and I feel like the key word is consumes right.

Speaker 3:

We're consuming information, we are consumers and we have no problem consuming information right.

Speaker 1:

What we need to do is apply that information.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

That's the difference. Hey, I got a quote in my pocket that applies here. Oh, my God. This is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. I don't know if I pronounced Goethe. I love the quote, though. He says knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough.

Speaker 3:

We must enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do Action, we need action. It's really crazy, because you could memorize every self-help, self-development, personal development book in existence and still feel stuck, because information without integration is just noise.

Speaker 1:

It's just noise, exactly, and there's so, so, so, so, so much noise on here.

Speaker 3:

So much noise so much noise.

Speaker 1:

Well, I like to talk a little bit about kind of focusing on what embodiment actually means. Right, we're talking about action.

Speaker 3:

What is it? Yeah, let's talk about it.

Speaker 1:

But embodiment is really when knowledge becomes instinct right, it's felt in the body, it's practiced daily, becomes instinct, right, it's felt in the body, it's practiced daily, it's visible in your actions, your energy, your choices. When you decide to apply information that you got somewhere, be it a diet, be it a new way of working out, do it how you raise your kids. The embodiment, basically, is when you take that information and you make a game plan as to how you're going to move forward.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, when you ritualize it Correct. It's like a lot where people get stuck on the how.

Speaker 1:

There's a study out of Harvard that found that learning paired with physical action or emotional engagement creates new neural pathways at a faster rate than passive consumption. So when we're talking about passive consumption, that's literally consuming.

Speaker 3:

That's literally the scroll Right exactly.

Speaker 1:

And it's funny because they're using the same word twice passive and consumption right.

Speaker 3:

See, like I'm a scroller, but then I save the scroll, thinking that I'm going to go back to the thing that I just learned on TikTok or Instagram or wherever you're you know wherever you're scrolling YouTube Shorts and you're like, oh, I'm going to save this, I'm going to look at this later because, like, I'm going to retain this at some point. And you think like, oh, this is really good. And like how many times have you saved something on any social media platform and then not looked at?

Speaker 1:

it. That is correct, but I like what you were talking about. Is you find something? So, if you use social media, if you use the news, I take a little action, exactly. But if you use it to seek out information, you're no longer a passive consumer, you're an active consumer.

Speaker 3:

Right, and I do end up. I now have created a practice where I take that little reel or TikTok and I Don't you look at me when I talk to you.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes your gaze is too much Zuri.

Speaker 3:

I get that a lot. I'm a little bit Medusa.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there's the fire, don't look too much.

Speaker 3:

But now I take it a little step further. I was saying and you weren't listening I was saying I take it a step further and I now am like using it and being like oh okay, I want to look back at the things that I saved in this week. So now I have a practice on Sundays where I look at what I've saved to retain it, because sometimes I'm passively scrolling and then actively scrolling and now I add it to a ritual where I can actually put it into my brain.

Speaker 1:

Well, I also want to thank you for teaching me how to actually search for things on Instagram, and actually TikTok is what got me, because I'd go into TikTok looking for something and I'd spend three hours scrolling for one thing and you're like no, just type it in, Like oh, I didn't know there was a search for like the first two months. I was like what the hell this?

Speaker 3:

is all. Social media has a search and, um, you know like it should be used for you to find what you're actually looking for, and also like some of the algorithms are better but, like tiktok, for example, if you put in what you are looking for, it will start serving that content to you more often. It uses your search as a way of building out your For you page and whatever you interact with. So you've got to be careful. You can't just be interacting with shit that you don't care about, because if you do, it's going to give you more of that Correct, and now a lot of platforms have the not interested or block or don't serve and stuff like that. So, yeah, we're digressing.

Speaker 1:

No, that's actually right in alignment. I mean you're becoming more of a discerning user, right, you are seeking information to embody. It's different from just collecting information and consuming information, than not even using it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like my Instagram workouts or my TikTok workouts like saving them and then not using them and then not doing them, it's like wait, you have to actually do the exercise and not just save the workout.

Speaker 1:

Exactly I mean how many times have you read a self-help book or a self-love book? And you know you can, you can describe and, and to great detail about self-love, right, you know, you know what it means, but until you actually apply that information, you set boundaries and you speak kindly to yourself and you live in alignment.

Speaker 3:

you're not inviting it, you're just collecting information, yeah, and a lot of people are like, oh yeah, I practice self-love. And it's like, okay, how, how are you practicing self-love? And then they're just totally stumped.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm reading this book.

Speaker 3:

I love myself and it's like, okay, how are you actively embodying that?

Speaker 1:

What are your self-love practices and habits? Well, embodiment is when your body, your mind and your spirit are all on the same page. It's wisdom in motion. I like that Wisdom in motion, wisdom in motion. And in order for that to happen, there has to be a two-part process Right.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 1:

You seek and then you apply.

Speaker 3:

Yes, so let's play a game. We're going to play a little game based on word association. Mike just asked me to pause before the game because he already started laughing. I love these games. He's like pause Okay. Behind the scenes Ready Go, go. So we're playing this game. It's a game that's like a word association. Why should we call this game?

Speaker 1:

It's the M Game, m Game.

Speaker 3:

Okay, this is the M game, but Not the end, but the M game. The M game. And it's a word, nerd, it's a word nerd, m is basically a prefix. Mike and I are both word nerds because I'm a lyricist and he's a poet, so we are word nerds. Just join us. Come to the fun side of the island.

Speaker 1:

We're going to have some fun, right now I'm over here playing with my vowels.

Speaker 3:

Okay, to the fun side of the island. We're going to have some fun. Right now I'm over here playing with my vowels, okay. Well, I'm playing with a prefix today. Okay, this prefix, m, comes from the Greek and Latin origins meaning in into within or to cause to be Okay.

Speaker 3:

It often signals transformation, movement or a state of being. So let's talk about M, e-m Everybody on the same page, ready, all right, okay. So we're talking about embodiment, okay. And embodiment comes from the word embody, right, yeah? Which means to give form to something intangible. It's about making an idea, a belief or an energy real. It's living it, expressing it, being it. It's not just knowing something, it's becoming it.

Speaker 1:

Correct. I love that.

Speaker 3:

So we're going to play this game where I'm going to have three words.

Speaker 1:

Three M words.

Speaker 3:

Three M words and I'm going to talk about what they mean, how to embody those words.

Speaker 1:

Got it. So three M words, I feel like you have something sneaky.

Speaker 3:

No, I don't have anything sneaky, no Famous last words. As soon as you get that little, look on your face and you're like no the drama, it's like the lie is big. The higher the pitch, the bigger the lie.

Speaker 1:

I can't control it, let's get into it.

Speaker 3:

No, you can't control it. You're just embodying all the joy and laughter and fun of a little kid.

Speaker 1:

The foreplay of this game is just too much. Let's get into it.

Speaker 3:

The foreplay is too much.

Speaker 1:

I'm too sensitive.

Speaker 3:

It's too fast, too soon. Okay, for example, just so everyone knows how to play this game, play along with us Empower Posse. Let's use empower. Okay. Empower to embody. Empower is to give strength or authority. Okay, so that's how you would play this game.

Speaker 1:

Got it Okay.

Speaker 3:

All right, so you go first, because you're really jumping at the bit.

Speaker 1:

So I have to come up with an M word, okay.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so an E-M word.

Speaker 1:

One of my favorite is, I would say, to embolden.

Speaker 3:

Embolden.

Speaker 1:

Embolden. I don't use embolden quite often, However. I embold people on a regular basis and embolden basically is to make someone brave or confident. Oh we could have been. Oh guess what? We could have been the emboldenment couple.

Speaker 3:

Emboldenment. Is it emboldenment no?

Speaker 1:

Think of bold. Bold is a root word. Yes, emboldenment. I don't know if it's or emboldened.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, emboldened, that's what I was going to say. It's or emboldened yeah.

Speaker 1:

Emboldened company. That's what I was going to say. It's not emboldement, emboldementsments, emboldestness.

Speaker 3:

No, okay, so what is it? Emboldened, emboldened, emboldened couple.

Speaker 1:

To make someone brave or competent. What do?

Speaker 3:

you got? I don't know, it doesn't have the same ring. No, no, no.

Speaker 1:

We chose wisely, I think we chose wisely Wait but who?

Speaker 3:

chose wisely.

Speaker 1:

We did Uh-huh Okay. I'm like who.

Speaker 3:

All right, Speaking of you know, work, work, work, work, work, work and twerk. My word is employ, Ooh, Employ. Employ it's like I employed you to be on this podcast. No, employ is to put something into use. So, like a person, when you hire them, for example, you're putting their talents into use.

Speaker 1:

Correct.

Speaker 3:

And it's an action. It's them doing the action. Ooh, yonks, gosh darn it. You like it.

Speaker 1:

I wish I had something better. But guess what I do? I'm going to go for embark. Uh-oh, embark is to start a journey or undertaking. So what I'm dealing with and I'm hanging out with and not hanging out with, but when I'm working with my clients, a lot of the times I'm helping them embark on a journey towards self-discovery, a journey towards better health, with their partners, their loved ones.

Speaker 3:

It's a difference between counseling and coaching is that with coaching, you embark on the application process.

Speaker 1:

Correct, we're in the canoe at the same time.

Speaker 3:

Like counseling. They're just listening to you. The therapist or whatever the counselor is listening to you, whereas a coach is like, oh no, homeboy, we're getting in the canoe, we're going to do this together.

Speaker 1:

Hold the oar like this and dip it into the water. See, it gets some momentum.

Speaker 3:

So embark, I love it Okay.

Speaker 1:

What's your third and final?

Speaker 3:

Have I done three.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you did.

Speaker 3:

Okay, okay, okay, well, shoot, I have a handful here. Which one should I pick? I'm going to emphasize, emphasize, emphasize. I like that You're looking at me like it doesn't work. I was like, wait, what Don't do that, oh my God. Emphasize To put weight into something's importance.

Speaker 1:

So why this is interesting is, when you emphasize, you are adding action to no. Emphasize is good because it allows you to provide. Why are you keep looking at this? No, no, no, I'm waiting for you.

Speaker 3:

You're not waiting for me it provides perspective.

Speaker 1:

Right, emphasizing something that was overseen or underseen gives someone a new perspective. Okay, right, I like that Because you're really excited about your third one so you just shit all over my third one.

Speaker 3:

I didn't shit. Yeah, you did. You're like. No, I was watching you and you were floundering and I helped you out, you, son of a bitch.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so my last one is ML, and it's basically the transference of digital documents.

Speaker 3:

It's what.

Speaker 1:

ML or email.

Speaker 3:

That's what you're waiting for this whole time. It was funny when I thought of it. I'm dying. He can't breathe. This is how you know he's a dad. His jokes are so bad and he's the only one laughing M-ail.

Speaker 1:

M-ail M-ail. No, it's email. I'm just messing with you.

Speaker 3:

It's not good.

Speaker 1:

Actually, I have something better. You didn't have anything else.

Speaker 3:

You really wanted that to land. Oh, that's so cute.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm going to go for embellish. On the real embellish, just like you did with that really bad joke, to make something more attractive by adding decorations, and sometimes I have to embellish people's lives so they get to know just how good they have it.

Speaker 3:

And just how good they are. Correct, yeah, by the way, my outfit I embellished my PJs with this jacket and this hat. Earlier I had on some bling bling because, like, why not, you know?

Speaker 1:

That outfit makes me want to impregnate you. Oh, guess what? There's another. M word.

Speaker 3:

Look at, you're just ruining this whole thing, the editing I will have to do. Anyway, that was a fun game.

Speaker 1:

That was a good game, do you?

Speaker 3:

have another one, because you look real excited.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, no, I shot my load with email. It was good times. I was having a hard time controlling that one. It was such a good one.

Speaker 3:

You could see it was okay. I mean, I don't know, employ, emphasize, what did I say? Embody, empower, mm-hmm Well.

Speaker 1:

Right now.

Speaker 3:

Embrace.

Speaker 1:

Right now I'm getting hungry and I feel like I'm suffering from being emaciated.

Speaker 3:

And I'm going to emulate throwing up on all of your jokes today. You know, in sign language, when they do the throw up sign, I'm going to you know what emulate is to imitate. I'm embarrassed to imitate or strive to match. So the throw up sign is perfect for your jokes. I'm matching your jokes with my physical reaction. I'm emulating vomit you emptied out your, your intestinal tract well, I hope that we embossed some amazing laughter and fun into your day with this game.

Speaker 1:

That is correct.

Speaker 3:

And I'm going to emphasize the importance of laughing as much as possible, at every point possible, so that we can embark on this journey and embrace every single moment with joy.

Speaker 1:

Okay, let's get back down to the show.

Speaker 3:

Swear, we are sober, swear we are sober 100%. Just high on life. Okay, so we're going to talk about why we get stuck in knowledge mode and this is going to help. Okay, so the key thing to understand is that most people stay in the fact collector zone because it's safe Ooh, the safe zone. Embodiment requires vulnerability, discipline and oftentimes discomfort.

Speaker 1:

That is correct.

Speaker 3:

And what does our brain hate more than anything?

Speaker 1:

Discomfort.

Speaker 3:

Discomfort, like it will do everything to avoid being uncomfortable. Oh, for sure, For sure Well there's a Stanford study showed that that people who engage in intellectual learning without practice overestimated their ability to change by 40%.

Speaker 1:

And you know what that overestimation is? A fucking buzzkill, right when you're like, oh, this time next month I'm going to be doing this and doing that, doing this, and then when it doesn't happen, it's a double hit.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I always like I had these moments in early adulthood where people would say like, oh well, that's going to take you like three years, and I was like what are you talking about? And like manifesting generator personality, I was like I can do that in three months, you know, and not realizing that they're actually right, and sometimes I could cut it in half because I am fast at certain things. But you know, and I manifest and stuff like that, and I'm like, oh, I'm playing with a different energy field and I have like this cockiness, but actually, like you really have to do a lot of action in order for things even manifesting. Even manifesting, we'll talk more about that. But here's a good factoid. The Dunning-Kruger effect often shows up here. The more you know, the more you think you've arrived. But without embodiment, growth plateaus.

Speaker 1:

So I have arrived several times in my life, right? I get to a point where I'm like, oh yeah, I've totally figured this out, I get it and I haven't arrived anywhere, right? Yep, I just got a little bit more comfortable being somewhere.

Speaker 3:

Yep, but it comes down to this, like if information was the answer, we'd all be billionaires with perfect abs.

Speaker 1:

Oh yes.

Speaker 3:

That's from Derek Zippers.

Speaker 1:

I like how you just pull these quotes out of your pocket, that's nice yeah. Your pockets have deep quotes.

Speaker 3:

But it happens a lot in my coaching business. People are like oh yeah, I know that, oh yeah, I learned that, and it's like, yes, you really haven't learned something until you've embodied it, until you've put it into application, until it's part of your habits. It's part of your habits, it's part of who you are as a person, and the universe will match that.

Speaker 1:

It's not what you know, but what you do. Yeah. So if you're active in the process of redoing your life or in the process of up-leveling your education or something that is actually what you're doing, yeah, and the pattern is that most people want to feel better without doing better.

Speaker 3:

Correct. That's where facts fail and embodiment wins.

Speaker 1:

Wins, and what we're looking for are wins.

Speaker 3:

Yes, right, we want win after win after win, integration baby.

Speaker 1:

So the next segment really is going to be about how to move from knowing to embodiment.

Speaker 3:

Yes, let's do it.

Speaker 1:

So we're going to talk a little bit more about some actual practices. Right? So you have what is called the integration time, right? So after learning something, you have to apply it immediately.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is where, like, the scrolling thing doesn't totally work. That's why I'm like I started revisiting it, Like when you know, like this exercise program that I like saved. I'm like I started revisiting it, Like when you know, like this exercise program that I like saved. I'm like, oh, I want to learn how to do that dance mover. Oh, I want to learn how to do this, Like, and I'd save it. And then I'd scroll to the next thing A couple of minutes later, save something else. And it's like, wait a minute, if I'm never going to look at these, this is ridiculous. Like, why am I even looking at this? Content Correct, so you have to apply it immediately.

Speaker 3:

You have to apply it immediately or set time aside that you're going to actually apply it.

Speaker 1:

Correct, even if the action is tiny like what you said. You know what I'm going to make time tomorrow to check this out. I'm going to make time tomorrow to call this number. I'm going to make time, you know, put it in your schedule. Whatever you can do to make it to add some momentum, the better. Then you have your practices right. So you have your daily micro practices. Habits and these are small, consistent actions that align you, step-by-step, with what you're looking for.

Speaker 3:

Right, and sometimes they're baby steps and sometimes they become, you know, more complex, like a habit stack, for example. That would be a complex way of putting it into practice. It's like, okay, I only have so much time in the day. I'm going to do my mind food at the same time as my workout for example. Okay, let's talk about body awareness.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So, of course, with body awareness, you want to use your breath work, you want to use movement. You need to do some sort of somatic exercises so that you are in constant connection with your body, with your heart. Get into your body, get into your heart, and that will allow you to move faster, because what's going to slow you down is your ego. It's the mind that will slow you down.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, your mind Every time. Get in your head, you're dead. Start with your heart instead. So your breath work and your somatic practices which somatic practices would be breath work those are going to allow your nervous system to get into a rhythm of action. So, that's when you're actually applying something that you have learned. If you know you're meant to meditate, that would be a practice. If you know you're meant to practice deep breathing. That would be a practice. Body awareness is massive. What else?

Speaker 1:

There's accountability and reflection. This is like you know. You're journaling. This is where coaching comes in, or some sort of community check-in that you're connected with.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yep, and then slowing down with your information consumption like you used that word earlier because embodiment requires digestion, correct. So you sometimes think that you know something. All of us me, mike we all have experiences where we think we know it and then we keep learning the same lesson again. A big one for me is like boundaries Like I think I have amazing boundaries and then all of a sudden I'm getting like totally leeched on by another energy vampire because I had compassion for what they were going through, right. So it's like my patterns are because I haven't learned how to embody them in every situation and like you haven't really learned it. Until the universe stops challenging you with it to a point where you're not challenged, you're just like, oh no, that's a no.

Speaker 1:

I like also what you said in regards to requires digestion. It reminded me of a time where I was consuming books via Audible, like over and, over and, over and over again, and I got. I was, I don't know, reading, listening to a book a week, bare minimum. And I got to a point the other day when I was like, oh, I'm going to get back into Audible because I was listening to music for a while. So I'm going to get back into Audible and I started going through all the books that I read and a lot of them I don't remember because I didn't.

Speaker 3:

Take time to digest them.

Speaker 1:

I didn't take time to digest.

Speaker 3:

And you were probably habit stacking you. I didn't take time to digest them. I didn't take time to digest and you were probably habit stacking. You're like I'm going to listen to this while I'm doing dishes Correct, and then you weren't taking notes. And there is a lot of neuroscientists that say there's no such thing as multitasking, which I love to multitask, but they believe that because you can only do a certain amount of tasks. Well, really, one task at a time is how to execute.

Speaker 1:

I agree, and here's what I'll say about that is the more tasks that I'm doing, the more in my head I am right, the less in the heart I am, which reminds me of a Sue proverb that says the longest journey you will ever take is from your head to your heart. Journey you will ever take is from your head to your heart. Now, when I can do one thing at a time and put my heart into it, that's going to be spectacular.

Speaker 3:

Yes, coherence is really an under-taught thing. Getting your mind and your heart to be in coherence together is super powerful.

Speaker 1:

Well, extrapolate just a little bit on the coherence together is super powerful.

Speaker 3:

Well, extrapolate just a little bit on the coherence. Well, how I talk about coherence is that our heart is just an organ the same as our brain, is just an organ.

Speaker 3:

Our heart was first. It was made first, right. So just scientifically speaking, our heart came first. Okay, it was made first, right. So just scientifically speaking, our heart came first. Okay, and so the heart has to. The heart can outlive the brain, meaning many people can live and they'll, they're brain dead. Right, but the brain can't live without the heart, correct, because the heart comes first. And so when people say like, follow your heart, it's because your heart has to lead all things, because your heart is not afraid, your heart doesn't want to keep you in your safety zone, your heart is not mad. When people say that you have a broken heart, it's because you're thinking of a memory or a thing that makes your heart feel the emotions. Your heart is like your master organ. It has its own brain and it has its own purpose.

Speaker 3:

And it's really what's connected to your soul. So when your brain and your heart are in alignment, you are unstoppable, because your brain can be powerful, but it can work as a tool against you or for you, and it's just an organ. So that's how I like to think of coherence is that when they work together, unstoppable. But oftentimes what's happening is they're working against each other. Like you know, if you get into your head and you then become depressed, if you get into your head and you then become depressed, your heart is likely. It's likely because of non-movement, your heart is not pumping. If you get into your head and you know you're anxious.

Speaker 1:

It's because you are thinking of the future and possibly, what's happening with your heart is that you aren't taking a deep breath and, furthermore, right. Furthermore, the term is embody.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Right. So usually, when you talk about your body, you're talking about your torso, which is where your heart lives.

Speaker 3:

It's where all of your major organs, aside from your brain, we're not talking about in mind. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Right, we're not talking about in ego, we're not talking about in mental, we're talking about if you want to actually assimilate it into your life, you have to bring it into your body, you have to bring it into your heart.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Mind, body and spirit is what a lot of people say, and you need to focus on your body first and then the rest will follow suit. Like when you go for a walk, your mind clears for a reason because it's following your heart.

Speaker 1:

So, going back to you know, don't over consume information. You got to stop trying to learn more and start trying to live more of what you already know.

Speaker 3:

Exactly. Apply what you already know. The challenge would be for the Empowered Posse this week is to embody one thing that you have learned from the Empowerment Couple podcast. One thing, whether it's movement medicine or it's laughter medicine, like take one of our medicine episodes and imply it, like and apply it, not imply and apply it.

Speaker 1:

We are implying that you need to Employ it, you can.

Speaker 3:

Employ it, you can employ it but embody it. So, like you know, we have one about hugging, we have one about skin to skin, like basically, take something that you have learned from us and embody it and do it for 30 to 60 days.

Speaker 1:

And you apply it. By what A habit?

Speaker 3:

A habit, embody anything that you have learned. That is positive, that you know. You're like oh, that's the linchpin that's going to unlock me, because we all have them. We all have these keys, these locks, and we all have these keys that we know. Usually, you know, you know the answer of what's missing, like, oh, I'm not moving enough or oh, I'm complaining too much.

Speaker 1:

Whatever the thing is, you have officially become comfortable with being uncomfortable.

Speaker 3:

Exactly so. For example, like in our Hold the Vibe course, I talk a lot about thoughts, you know, and mindset, and you know thinking, and a lot of times manifestation coaches are teaching only about like one part of the universal laws. You know, like the law of attraction. Oh, if you think good thoughts and it's not just thinking good thoughts manifesting, if you're thinking good thoughts and your body is feeling like shit, you are not going to manifest anything because you have to embody those good feeling thoughts, those good feeling. If they're not producing a feeling, if you're not envisioning them as if they are real and you're not creating coherence or you know, like we were just talking about, but if you aren't creating energy in your body, that's a match to what you're looking for, like the outcome that you are seeking, that's a match to what you're looking for, like the outcome that you are seeking, if your nervous system is all tight because it's like, oh gosh, I got to have the thing, whatever, like I need to get another client, or whatever you're manifesting, whatever you're working on.

Speaker 3:

If your body is constantly feeling the lack, or if you're manifesting a partner and you're constantly feeling in your body lonely, like the lack of touch and the lack of, you know, just the warmth of a person near you or the energy of like having that partner. If you're feeling that in your nervous system you are not a match, because your body is an instrument, correct, and your body is going to resonate with however it's being played as an instrument, as an instrument Correct and your body is going to resonate with however it's being played as an instrument.

Speaker 3:

As an instrument, and so you're either going to be in harmony or disharmony or discord, with whatever you're looking to attract, whatever you're looking to be a match for. So your alignment won't work if you aren't an embodiment of that.

Speaker 1:

That is correct. It's the same thing as saying you become a match of what you want.

Speaker 3:

You have to marry the good thinking with the embodiment, and then you know, apply some action, take inspired action and you know and then allow, and a lot of people make it super complex. Most things that you want to learn, that you want to master, are very simple, but the reason why people don't master them is because they don't embody them.

Speaker 1:

And I agree with you they just learn, learn, learn, learn, learn.

Speaker 3:

Get all these certifications and then they're never a master of anything because they're looking everywhere outside instead of looking inside of like. Okay, it's time to put this into practice. It's a difference between information and transformation. The difference is implementation.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yes, that is correct. I love that. Say that one more time.

Speaker 3:

The difference between information and transformation is implementation, that's it. That's implementation, that's it. That's it. That's it. That's the sauce.

Speaker 1:

So nothing makes it into your life until you put it there. Implementation you have to implement, you got to put it on your plate.

Speaker 3:

It's spelled differently, but it is implementation Spelled with an I.

Speaker 1:

That is correct. It's spelled with an I because it has a P in front of it. That's another weird little grammar thing.

Speaker 3:

Whatever, and let me just tell you this Knowledge is the spark, embodiment is the flame.

Speaker 1:

Is the freaking flame, motherfucking, flame. Flame it up honey.

Speaker 3:

Alright, we're burning it all down Phoenix energy. Mm-hmm. Let's learn one more time and embody it. This time you got to do a little body roll. When you do it, embody it.

Speaker 1:

That's nice, you like it, that's nice, that's nice.

Speaker 3:

We'll have to do it real. I have a request for you Empowered Posse. Okay, what I would like is take a screen grab of this episode, tag us on social and tell us what you learned about embodiment, or tell us what you are going to embody for the next 30, 60 days. You set the time frame. You know you. You know how long it takes you to create a habit. Habits, there we go, I can tell you about science.

Speaker 3:

Science says 21 days, other scientists say 60. You decide how long you want to commit to putting this into practice and embody something positive that's going to empower you to be your best self.

Speaker 1:

And don't forget the benefit of baby steps. Yes, this process doesn't have to be your best self. And don't forget the benefit of baby steps yes, this process doesn't have to be overwhelming. It can be beautiful every step of the way.

Speaker 3:

And it doesn't have to be perfect.

Speaker 1:

It just has to be.

Speaker 3:

You just have to embody it, just embody it.

Speaker 1:

You can take a baby step as long as you're taking a step.

Speaker 3:

Okay, kisses, sending you the highest vibrations.

Speaker 1:

You are held.

Speaker 3:

You are loved when. Mikey gets going. He embodies when he gets going with his laughter. He embodies like an old sailor One eye closes oh I'm.

Speaker 1:

Popeye, you turn into Popeye, you turn into Popeye.

Speaker 3:

And then you like laugh like a Popeye sailor, but then you have like all of this flim that comes from like the depths of Soros or whatever Depths of Soros. Soros, soros, soros. What are you talking about? I was trying to nerd with you Soros, soros.

Speaker 1:

Soros. What's Soros, soron?

Speaker 3:

Oh Soron, oh my God. People probably think that we're like high If you're going to nerd honey, if you're going to nerd, you've got to nerd. I can't nerd at your level.

Speaker 1:

You've got to do your research.

Speaker 3:

People already know I can't nerd at your level. Okay've got to do your research.

Speaker 1:

Anyways, people already know I can't nerd at your level. Okay, that is correct, that is correct.

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