The Empowerment Couple
Ready to supercharge your life with a symphony of laughter, wisdom, and transformative insights? Welcome to The Empowerment Couple Podcast, where entertainment meets empowerment, and education expands your world! Join Zuri and Mikey Star, your empowerment and expansion coaches, on a power-packed journey each week. Laughter and wisdom collide in a perfect blend, creating a space for the empowered posse to play. Dive deep into personal development, relationships, spirituality, career strategies, and other crucial topics that will inform and allow you to co-create your most beautiful life. Featuring top guest experts, every episode is crafted with your empowerment in mind. Subscribe now and let The Empowerment Couple Podcast be your soundtrack to happiness, transmuting your worries and filling you with an abundance mindset.
Tune in and transform!
The Empowerment Couple
This One Agreement Saved Our Relationship—And It’s Not What You Think
What if one simple energetic agreement could transform your relationship? After decades together and trying everything from therapy to communication tools, we discovered something unexpected that changed everything: consciously agreeing to lead from our divine energies.
Most couples try to meet in the middle, blending roles in the name of equality. But we found that when roles become too blended, relationships lose their spark. Modern partnerships default to sameness rather than synergy, creating safety but extinguishing what we call "soul fire." The breakthrough came when we agreed that I would lead from divine feminine energy (fluidity, creativity, receptivity, emotional strength) and Mikey would lead from divine masculine energy (direction, presence, containment, action).
This wasn't about traditional gender roles—we've switched provider and nurturer positions many times. Instead, this agreement centered on energy, safety, and presence. The polarity between these complementary energies creates the tension that keeps relationships exciting and passionate. Research confirms that couples who consciously discuss energetic leadership report higher emotional intimacy and lower conflict.
The challenge comes from our wounds—typically stemming from childhood—that create automatic responses when we feel threatened. These patterns show up when we're trying to control our partner or feeling victimized. We've developed practices to stay in our divine energies: weekly check-ins, nature walks, breathwork, sound healing, and yoga help us reset when we fall out of alignment. When our energy is misaligned, everything feels hard. When we're in agreement, love flows effortlessly.
Want to experience this transformation in your relationship? We specialize in helping conscious couples harmonize their energy, heal patterns, and activate their divine masculine and feminine power for deeper intimacy, aligned communication, and true partnership—which translates to better sex and less arguing. Apply through the link in our show notes to begin your journey to sacred partnership.
Looking for Empowerment Coaching? Apply to work with Zuri here
Looking for Expansion Coaching? Apply to work with Mike here.
Manifest everything you want in your life, using our HoldTheVibe.com course! 5 modules led with audio and video by Mikey and Zuri to help you unlock the magic of manifesting using a simple step-by-step process.
Want to be on our show? Use this form.
Support your health and get in on our affiliate offers:
- Join our Frequency Family and buy your own Healy Device here.
- Get 10% off any Intellipure device using this link & code: Zuri
- Want to do what we are doing? Join us on Kajabi and create a course, email list, coaching program, or membership. You’ll get two free weeks and help us continue our ad-free podcast.
- Want to podcast? Use Buzzsprout the best podcasting host! Following this link lets Buzzsprout know we sent you!
If you enjoyed this episode please share, subscribe, and ...
You can get into drag real easy right and we're not talking about, like you know, drag in regards to like your clothes. We're talking about being able to switch roles at the drop of a dime and not feel bad about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, welcome to the Empowerment Couple Podcast, where your path to self-mastery expands.
Speaker 1:My co-host is empowerment coach Zuri Starr.
Speaker 2:And he's expansion coach Mikey Starr.
Speaker 1:Together we are the Empowerment Couple.
Speaker 2:Our mission is simple to serve you, love, so you can make informed decisions to regain and maintain your personal power.
Speaker 1:We'll take you on a journey to a life filled with purpose, passion and limitless possibilities, while sharing stories of transformation, wellness hacks and healthy habits backed by science and ancient wisdom.
Speaker 2:Plus, we'll keep you entertained with engaging games, banter and funny innuendos along the way.
Speaker 1:Each episode is an exciting blend of education, entertainment and empowerment.
Speaker 2:Designed to help you create a mindset to be a magnet for more love, happiness and abundance.
Speaker 1:Together with our special guests, we are dedicated to sharing information that empowers you to create your most beautiful life A onesie, a twosie, a twosie your most beautiful life.
Speaker 2:I got nothing.
Speaker 1:I got nothing, you were supposed to say something I forgot.
Speaker 2:This one agreement saved our relationship and it's not what you think it's not what you think not even close it's not what you think. What's crazy is, this episode is going to reveal a very unexpected one agreement, and that brought us together. That saved us many, many, many times. That's, currently we are still in the process of testing it and embodying it, because it's one thing to know it and totally another thing to embody it right.
Speaker 1:Correct, that is correct.
Speaker 2:So this is all about stepping into your divine. So Mikey and I have been together for a long time.
Speaker 1:It's a healthy amount of years. Decades we're going on decades, yeah.
Speaker 2:And because of that, as one can imagine, you change a lot during that time. And we have tried all the things right. We've been to immersion conferences and therapy. We tried therapy, we've tried communication tools and it's funny as podcasters, I would say. Still, one of our weakest links is communication, so let's start a podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Best way to learn is to teach right.
Speaker 2:But the one thing that changed everything, the one thing is this agreement there was an energetic agreement that I would lead from divine feminine and that Mike would lead from divine masculine. It wasn't about roles, it wasn't about, like you know, all the like stereotypical things, because actually Mike and I have switched roles, societal roles, many times, like sometimes he's the provider, sometimes I'm the provider, sometimes he's the nurturer, sometimes I'm the nurturer Like societal we're not talking about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are a mixed bag. We are so past that we are a mixed bag. That's so like 1990. But it was interesting because it definitely led us to this current understanding is when you blend your roles this much, you develop tension.
Speaker 2:So there you go. But the main thing about roles is that it wasn't really about roles, societal roles. It was about energy safety and presence. It was about energy safety and presence, and we would love for you to stick around now that you know what that one thing was, because we are going to talk about this neuroscience, the polarity dynamics and the practices that help us embody this sacred agreement daily.
Speaker 1:Let's get into why traditional advice doesn't always work. So most couples they try to meet in the middle right so that they can. But that can also lead, like we were just talking about, to energetic blending right, where the roles are so blended that it's hard to know what. You know who's doing who. Who's doing what.
Speaker 2:Who's doing who? Who's doing who right? That's going to cause some real problems.
Speaker 1:And what that does is it causes a lack of polarity. Now, modern relationships often default to sameness, right? Not synergy. So sameness is, oh, we're both doing the same thing at the same time, whereas synergy, we have the opportunity to benefit off of each other's strengths, right? Knowing that someone brings you know what you bring to the table is different from what I bring to the table. Sameness breeds safety, but it doesn't always breed soul fire, right? And that's what we're looking for. We're looking for that polarity breeds passion.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about polarity and divine dynamics. So, understanding polarity, let's just do a little polarity 101, shall we so? Feminine equals fluidity, creativity, creativity, receptivity, emotional strength. Feminine is very intuitive and receptive, like lots of resting and receiving and creating that energy of rest is just as important as the to-do list, especially when you're collaborating and blending, as you were calling it. Masculine is direction, so being a leader and being decisive in direction Presence so maintaining a healthy presence. Containment meaning that they can hold space and action.
Speaker 1:Masculine energy is very action-based.
Speaker 2:And so if we look at what polarity those two because they're essentially opposites, the yin and the yang when we look at that, we can see how they would match really well together. If one is leading and the other one is receiving, and one is very fluid, the other one is very directive, you know, focused. One is very creative and the other one is like holding a container where it's safe to be creative. One is very emotional and the other one is very like okay, I'm here for your emotions, the presence, part of it. That's how they can stimulate each other and create necessary polarity. So there's this really good quote from David Data the feminine tests the masculine's presence by surrendering to the unknown. The masculine proves itself by holding that chaos with love.
Speaker 1:It's beautiful.
Speaker 2:So here's the embodied agreement. Is that Me? Suri hi, I lead with intuition and emotional intelligence which is feminine, and Mike hi.
Speaker 1:Hello, hello.
Speaker 2:Leads with groundedness, protection and forward momentum, and that's masculine. But we both can switch roles consciously when needed. We both have the ability to be very masculine in my case, where I am a go-getter and I'm very driven, without being like hustle culture vibes like burning out, and then you can be very emotional and creative and I can create space for that. But it's when we both are acting from a wounded place that we will struggle.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you look at the yin-yang sign, the yin-yang sign is so many things at once, is so many things at once, and if you look at it, it is a celebration of the divine masculine and the divine feminine in a constant interaction with one another. And if you look even closer, you'll know that it has a part of divine masculine and the divine masculine also has a part of divine feminine. Yes, masculine also has a part of divine feminine. Yes, that same yin-yang sign is also a representation of the divine masculine or the divine feminine. Right, it is a balance. That is how you reach divinity. You reach divinity by celebrating as men, celebrating your feminine but using your masculine, staying in your masculine but also having that ability to connect with the feminine when necessary, and vice versa. So when both parties come to the table as balanced individuals, then you have that empowered relationship. So that's what I'm excited about.
Speaker 2:Well, according to the Journal of Couple and Relationship Therapy, couples who consciously discuss energetic leadership roles report higher emotional intimacy and lower communication conflict. And I think that what happens from my testing with you.
Speaker 2:Testing, you know where we just like test all these concepts on each other. Yeah, does this work? I wonder what this works. I have found that the communication conflict mostly comes from not listening, and in situations where I have to play maybe a masculine role, where I am the podcast producer, then I have to create a way for you to then be safe, to be more feminine and follow my lead, because in that case I am playing a leadership role.
Speaker 1:And in order for me to do that, I have to suspend all of my wounds in order to follow, because, as men, it's hard for men to follow. But we also have to follow as men, because that is our role. Sometimes, following is a form of protection.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the agreement again is not about power, it's just about polarity and peace, polarity and peace, peace through polarity. Peace through polarity honey.
Speaker 1:You would think that it would go the exact opposite, but really, opposites attract. That's how we keep our flame going by celebrating our differences and also celebrating our similarities. So let's talk a little bit about safety, sex and sacred love.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. So for the feminine, safety really equals relaxation, right. It means a deeper emotional and sexual connection. Females, they want to feel like they're being led and held, and that's the key to being creative and connecting with that sensual flow. This reminds me of a quote from Shan Boodram, who states a woman cannot access her softness unless she feels safe in the container. So let's talk about the container, right. So for the masculine, what we're looking for is direction and presence, and direction and presence equals the embodiment of leadership, right. So responsibility is the key, not domination.
Speaker 2:Yes, say it louder.
Speaker 1:Responsibility is key, not dominating, right? Men are not supposed to dominate, they're supposed to protect. Okay, jay Shetty talks about servant leadership in conscious partnerships, basically showing up as a protector of the emotional container, not an authority of it, right? So basically, what it means is you are the protector of your house. You are not the king of it, right, you're not the dominant person.
Speaker 2:You can be the king with the queen.
Speaker 1:That is correct the decisions are together.
Speaker 2:It's like cockpit. You know you're both in the cockpit. Sometimes one of you is the captain, Sometimes one of you is the co-pilot.
Speaker 1:And going back to the whole yin-yang, one is leading, the other one's following, and then you could swap that anytime. Yep, it's not that the masculine leads the relationship, it leads the energy with love, right? So what we're talking about here is the container. That we're talking about is the relationship, right? So I am protecting the relationship, and within that relationship resides my woman, who is protected.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's time for a game. Let's play divine or default. I love games. I know you do. Are you going to default or are you going to be divine?
Speaker 1:Oh, you know what? My default is now divine.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we're going to do a playful, playful, polarity showdown. Okay, a showdown. Okay, are you ready to showdown Showdown? Okay, here's how it works. So you and I will take turns. We're going to read out loud some real life relationship scenarios like disagreements, chores, communication, fails, the normal stuff, date night moments that maybe went awry. Each one gets two options for how to respond. Okay, you ready for this? Yes, so divine feminine and divine masculine responses. So here it goes.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And then the default would be a wounded response Ooh. So this wound conversation is going to continue into next week's show because it's so powerful and we wanted to give this away to our audience because we know that if you understand wounded and you understand divine honey.
Speaker 1:It's time to do some wound care. Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Okay. So here's the funny part is that I want you yes, you know what I'm saying Okay, so here's the funny part is that I want you to kind of act them out.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, so get real wounded up in there and get real divine and you know I will do my best with the wounded.
Speaker 1:It's been such a long time since I felt wounded.
Speaker 2:Oh fool. Okay. So scenario one your partner forgot to do the one thing they promised to do today. Okay, so the default feminine would do something like go ahead. What would a default feminine do?
Speaker 1:Oh, you never listen, I'm just going to do it myself again. That's standard.
Speaker 2:That's standard, so it's like drama queen tone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Would she like throw something?
Speaker 1:There's going to be some foot stomping, there's going to be some eye rolling, there's going to be, you know, improper tonage. I like that stuff.
Speaker 2:Tonage. Okay, so like divine feminine could handle that situation like hey love, Hi. I felt disappointed today and then, you know, you kind of leave some space Like I felt disappointed when that one thing didn't happen. Okay, Can we try again with more clarity.
Speaker 1:I like that. That's a nice soft power. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2:And embodied Like hey, it happens, grace. Also, grace, I don't see your eyes rolling or any foot stomping when that happens. I don't know, with this eye rolling thing, I don't know how to roll my eyes, so I don't know what. You roll my eyes, so I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, okay, there, it is Okay.
Speaker 1:Scenario two Scenario two go for it.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you do this time divine masculine. I'll do the default. Okay, so your partner is visibly emotional but not talking. Who does that? So you're going to do the divine. So first let me respond who does that? Okay, so default masculine when you're in default. Okay, when you're not being masculine in divine. What's wrong now? Can we just fix it? And then shuts down or rushes the emotion or slams the door or leaves stone walls et cetera. Fill in the blank.
Speaker 1:That's not the way it's done.
Speaker 2:That's default.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you that.
Speaker 2:Wounded default.
Speaker 1:Divine masculine would say something like I'm here, no rush, take your time, baby. When you're ready to talk, I'm ready to listen.
Speaker 2:See how much sexier that was.
Speaker 1:I provided my presence. I'm protecting the container. We're good to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay. So scenario three, last one it's Friday night, date night, and neither of you planned dinner.
Speaker 1:You didn't plan dinner.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'm going to act out default feminine and divine feminine, and then you act out divine feminine or masculine and divine or default masculine.
Speaker 1:Did I say that right?
Speaker 2:Divine and default masculine and I will do divine and default feminine. Say that 20 times fast, okay, if you're playing along. Saturday is it's Friday night and neither of you planned dinner and it's your date night.
Speaker 1:That's a mistake.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So default feminine would say something like you never take initiative, why is it always me Bad move? And then, if she did that, obviously default masculine would be nasty right.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, our wounds would have a good time.
Speaker 2:Okay, but so here's a healthier approach to rise into your divine feminine. I'd love if you could take the lead tonight. I'm craving something cozy. Can you surprise me?
Speaker 1:Ooh, I can surprise you Mm-hmm. Now, if I were in my divine or my wounded, masculine, the default, the default, I'm going to call it my wounded. Anyway, it's a default masculine. I'm going to say something like whatever you want, just pick something.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm and I kind of like annoyed, like just whatever.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm doing dinner. You're not doing dinner. We're playing with wounds here. My divine masculine will be like I got this, Go relax.
Speaker 2:See, I just love that. I just love that. That just gets me all up in my feminine body.
Speaker 1:So how do you know if you're in your divine or in your wounded?
Speaker 2:Let's talk about it a little bit, because I think that that's a big part of assessing so hopefully that game was fun for you just to understand, like what the options are and what maybe you might be playing out at home, or maybe what you are seeing other couples play out is that oftentimes they're just defaulting into this nasty place of, like you know, power struggling or withdrawing or withholding and, you know, really getting into a place that's not in harmony.
Speaker 1:And a lot of times we fall into those patterns too, because we have a long standing pattern of dealing with our wounds in a negative way.
Speaker 2:Right. So your wound care. If you haven't done it and again we're going to go into this deep on the next episode so if you haven't done this inner work, this is the work that people talk about.
Speaker 1:This is the work that people hire us for.
Speaker 2:Exactly Can you fix my wounds?
Speaker 1:I can help you, but you're going to fix your wounds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to remind you how it feels not to be wounded Correct. Okay, so what I would say just about wounds is that we all have different wounds, typically mother and father wounds, because those make up our childhood, and again, we won't get too deep into it. But when a person is acting out of their wound, their pain body some people call it it's when they are feeling under attack or when they are feeling like they are disconnected from themselves, and so then they're just operating kind of like on autopilot.
Speaker 1:Lots of victim mode.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, and so you kind of know when you start feeling like you're in your wounded because you're wanting something from somebody who you know that you can't get a person, you can't control a person, you only can control yourself. And so if you're like pushing, pushing, pushing, oftentimes that's your sign that you are creating a trigger, for you're triggering them for their wound to come out. Because if you're pushing, pushing, pushing, whether you're a male or female, like if male dominate, women will be critical. When those two things happen, that's when the polarity goes away and then you're both fighting. And when you're both fighting, that's masculine, because you're trying to force the other person to see your point of view, to hear you, to listen to you, to feel all your feelings.
Speaker 2:And so, yes, it's wounded, masculine and it's oftentimes whatever wound is speaking the loudest at the time. Is it your mother wound? Is it your father wound? And so tune in next week to listen to more about that and we are going to help you unravel that and uncover it, bring it to light, integrate that shadow. You know Kung Fu style.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say. I'd go so far as to say that the minute you start blaming, you're in your wounded.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right the minute you start thinking that someone is doing something to you or you're getting the shitty end of the stick, you are in your wounded.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Right, where, if you can raise back up into or ascend back up into your divinity, that's where all of the answers are. So, if you finally are able to step back into that divine role, that's where peace is, that's where all the answers are. That is when you are at your strongest and that is also when you take full responsibility of all of your actions. So let's get into how we practice this agreement on a regular basis daily so we start, of course, with our weekly check-ins, right.
Speaker 1:So we ask these questions such as how safe do you feel this week? I mean, it's an exposing question, but it opens up the space for there to be some communication that needs to happen. There's masculine practices, such as planning, decision making. There's some physical presence, there's touch. There's grounding, again, as the masculine, as the divine masculine. What you want to do is find that grounding, that peace, because you are the protector, you are there to stand your ground, you are the rock, so women can feel safe and get into their feminine practices of dancing, journaling, surrendering.
Speaker 2:And when Mike creates that grounded energy, he's like medicine man to me. I'm like, oh, let me just lean on you, and you know like I get real cuddly and feminine. And when he's not being that way and he's in his head or not, you know like in his not experiencing coherence, um, it's, it's hard to be around because I'm just like, oh, man, that's just like everything else in my life. Is this imbalanced thing right? When you're coaching people or you're just experiencing the world? There's a lot of imbalance right now. And so having the time to be safe and to feel like, oh, this is nice for me, because women often don't have a time where they feel safe, and so that's their largest need from their masculine partner.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that in this practice, which we haven't written down, but what you and I do on a regular basis is have those divine conversations- what you and I do on a regular basis is have those divine conversations. Yeah Right, how often are you having divine masculine, divine feminine conversations within your marriage? And if it's not happening regularly, there's a good chance that your polarity is in need of repolarizing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you might both be acting wounded masculine to one another, or you might both be acting wounded feminine to each other and either way, both of those are just a mismatch, meaning that they are too similar and too much in the pain body to offer any sort of healing from one another.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're needy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so we want medicine from each another. Yeah, they're needy, yeah, and so we want medicine from each other. We use that term quite a bit loosely, but there's no point in being in a relationship if you aren't getting something in return. It's got to be reciprocal not transactional.
Speaker 1:And once again, it's that whole yin-yang process. I mean, every time you look at it it's going to give you the same answers Balance, flow, balance flow, balance, flow, balance flow.
Speaker 2:I'm going to dance on you.
Speaker 1:Balance, flow Balance flow. I balance your flow.
Speaker 2:I like it Libra and Aries.
Speaker 1:Boom, balance and flow and fire.
Speaker 2:Lots of fire and scorching, so here are some tools we use, we like to do, breath work, and sometimes breath work is obviously us going and working out, but actual breath work, walking and time in nature to reset our roles. I always find that when we're in nature, it's very easy to remember that I am divine, feminine. And because there's so many examples and you retune yourself, we use sound bowls and sound healing. There's so many things that we use together to retune ourselves. Intimacy rituals, which, of course, help us restore polarity. I would say that we've never had a problem in that department.
Speaker 1:No, no, no there's. In regards to intimacy, no, our polarity is on point.
Speaker 2:Our polarity in the bedroom is on point.
Speaker 1:It's when our wounds come out, that is when we have issues.
Speaker 2:It's interesting our wounds don't come out in the bedroom, though. I'm just saying. They don't the communication part is that wounds need to be put in regular check. Exactly.
Speaker 1:There needs to be proper wound care on a regular basis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, another thing that we like to do is yoga and meditation, and that helps us return to energetic alignment. And the other day we rolled out all three yoga mats and the three of us did yoga and I was like this is amazing. And then we had some.
Speaker 1:We rolled out all three yoga mats and the three of us did yoga and I was like this is amazing.
Speaker 2:We had some garden time, yeah, and then I noticed that you were really feeling in the zone of being in the garden together. So when our energy is misaligned, everything feels hard. When we're in agreement, love flows effortlessly.
Speaker 1:And let me tell you Effortlessly flowing love is what you're looking for.
Speaker 2:Yes, always. So, as the empowerment couple, we have been coaching couples quite a bit and we want to invite you if this speaks to you, if this work is the work that you need to do to have the most harmonious relationship, the juiciest, yummiest relationship, you can apply to work with us as a couple and we will work with you separately and together so that we can help you harmonize.
Speaker 1:Now be advised it doesn't matter how long you are married, right? You can be one year into a relationship. You can be 30 years into a relationship. If you have wounds, you're going to have to take care of them right away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the sooner the better. Wouldn't it be amazing if we took care of our wounds when we met in college? Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:What would have been even better if we didn't have any wounds. However, you do need wounds to grow.
Speaker 2:Yes, there's some opposition, yes, for sure. So wounds aren't a bad thing. It's how you deal with them. That's what makes it, whether or not it's positive or negative. You need to practice your alchemy. So you get handed quite a bit of stuff, but as a real-life couple, like for reals this is not for fakes and we're certified coaches. We specialize in helping conscious couples harmonize their energy and heal patterns and activate their divine masculine and feminine power for deeper intimacy, aligned communication and true partnership.
Speaker 1:like both of you in the cockpit, that also means, in layman terms, better sex and less arguing. Yes, does that sound nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no kidding. So whether you're navigating a transition or you're just ready to elevate your union, we're here to guide you back to connection, to clarity and to co-creation. So you can apply now there's a link in our show notes and we will help you with your sacred relationship blueprint and we are super excited about doing this work. I feel like this is one of our callings is to show up in this way, and we are very aligned in this journey of empowerment together and harmonization. So this is just one agreement. This is kind of a test, a taste test, rather, of what we do in our harmonization packages is like how we get you know results, results with agreements and find a way that they aren't about control, they're about devotion to each other's essence, and it's very powerful stuff.
Speaker 2:So let's do a couple of reflection questions that you can journal on. How about I'll do one? You do one, sure. You can journal on how about I'll do one, you do one, sure, all right. So one question is do I feel safe being in my natural energy, in my relationship? One more time Do I feel safe being in my natural?
Speaker 1:energy in my relationship. That's a good question. I have one. It's what part of me have I been dimming to keep the peace Once again? What part of me have I been dimming to keep the peace Once again? What part of me have I been dimming to keep the peace?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Do we have a third one?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Okay. So how about can I bring a conscious agreement into our love to deepen polarity and connection?
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so is there an agreement that you know needs to be made? This one is what worked for us and what's working currently for our couples, but what's your agreement? What agreement needs to be signed off on?
Speaker 1:For you and your partner to rise into your divine that's where you're supposed that is. The whole journey of life really is to rise past all of your wounds and ascend into the higher version of yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is about sacred union and having as much fucking fun as possible, because it is so fun when you have a partner who is your best friend, who you trust, who makes you feel safe so you can drop into feminine. It's rare these days to get to be that.
Speaker 1:And I'm so grateful for that. Yeah, we're lucky that we have had such a deep understanding of each other's wounds because of how much you and I have conversated. We've made that a point of our relationship early in the relationship. That's why we are here?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because we started out as friends. Exactly, we just listened to each other.
Speaker 1:Exactly Lots of talking, certainly to find you, because part of the process of marriage is finding someone who can help you extract all of your gifts and powers, and vice versa. So I felt like a lot of the things that you have done for me has allowed me to really touch upon you, know my true self, and I feel like, um, I'm, I'm literally watching you jump into your highest version. It's, and it's, a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 1:You're welcome.
Speaker 2:The funniest thing about our relationship is that when we met, we definitely met as very feminine and masculine and you were masculine and I was very feminine and like that initial attraction of like what you were willing to do and what I was willing to do was like very much on point just from a societal standpoint. But also we had some divine moments, because you know moments, because you know like when we were dating, for example, we would sit when we would leave the bar. Like the first night I met him that I've shared on the show before with our origin story is like he grabbed my hand, like to protect me, like okay, let me help you get out of this bar, because you're a woman, and like this is going to be hard to get out of this bar together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like we fell into our divine roles from the get.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And the only time that we've had issues is when one of us decides our wounds are sexier than our polarity. And let me tell you, wounds are never sexy. You know what I? Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, basically, because we have been together for so long and that started that way, we can return to that way very easily.
Speaker 2:But I will tell you the funniest part of our relationship is that there have been times when Mike has been like full societal perspective, has been the most masculine, and then there have been times where societal role would call him the most feminine, and same here, like I, have been the most masculine, the most feminine, and we always figure out how to like Mrs Doubtfire this shit, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:You know it's like oh, you're gonna take care of the kids. You know, kid, we only have one but like you're gonna take care of the kid and I'm gonna grow this business, okay. And then like sometimes mike's like entering his project or his era or his like business. He's like, okay, you're going to be the point person and then I'm going to do this and the dance that we have danced has been crazy. And I feel like in those times, especially in transition, is when we expand the most, because we have to play a role that society maybe doesn't support, role that society maybe doesn't, you know, support. And also that both of us came in as a certain gender with certain needs and abilities. You know, like our divine magic came from what we decided we wanted to be in this life and I definitely decided to be feminine.
Speaker 2:I did not decide to be masculine. However, I can very much step into a masculine role when needed.
Speaker 2:And also for you to be like oh okay, yeah, I got like we trust each other too. So there's times where I drop into divine masculine and he trusts that I will execute and I will lead and I will create the container, and like. There are times where Mike could drop into divine feminine and it's like you know, he can do all of the nurturing and all of the, the emotions, and, like he, he can drop in and out of that, and so it is really a skill set that we have mastered. However, in order to be in a relationship together, there are times where we need to be who we came in as, so that we can relax, we can settle, our nervous system, can feel like oh yeah, okay, I can just feel safe and breathe.
Speaker 1:What does Prince say? Let a woman be a woman and a man be a man.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So that's what we're expressing, right, that's the joy. Yeah, I get to be a man, you get to be a woman, and we get to celebrate that. But at any time we can switch Yep, and we would love to help you find your divine.
Speaker 2:So again, apply. And also, we can't take everyone, so it's very, very selective. And next week, tune in for free we're going to be talking all about wounds and healing them and we're gonna.
Speaker 1:We're gonna get all sexy on these wounds yeah, we are telling you the wounds.
Speaker 2:The wounds is the juice yeah, and you think that's where you transmute. That's where you get to that next level as you address those wounds yeah, and the funny thing is like people are running from it and I'm just like no, no, no, like, this is where it's all at. Like, if you do this, like, the whole world opens up.
Speaker 1:Let me suck your wounds.
Speaker 2:Well, we are sending you the highest vibrations. You are held.
Speaker 1:You are loved. No, is's too much, too much.
Speaker 2:I'll just lick them. No, no sucking, no licking. Thanks.
